ake Site News promotes Fr. Gerald Murray’s latest fit against the pope on Warmed Over With Raymond Arroyo. Murray and Fake Site are huge promoters of what they call “anti-sodomy laws.” They don’t say they want gays to be executed. They don’t say they don’t want gays to be executed. They don’t bring it up at all, as though it wasn’t the context of the pope’s remarks in his interview with the Associated Press. But it was the context. Here’s the question (bear with me, it’s in Spanish):
Hay un tema que es complicado, la criminalización de la homosexualidad. Es un tema que cada vez se ve discutido, pero hay muchas parejas que tienen leyes criminales contra los homosexuales y algunos hasta contemplan la pena de muerte. Incluso donde estas leyes no se aplican, las normas contribuyen a una clima de violencia, discriminación contra la comunidad gay y trans. ¿Cuál es la posición de la Iglesia? ¿Qué debe hacer la Iglesia? Puesto que hay obispos que apoyan estas leyes.
Pena de muerte—that’s the death penalty.
Here’s the translation [courtesy Cynthia Schrage]:
There’s a complicated subject: the criminalization of homosexuality. It is a subject that is increasingly discussed, but there are many places that have laws against homosexuals, and some even contemplate the death penalty. Even where these laws do not apply, the strictures contribute to a climate of violence and discrimination against the gay and trans community. What is the position of the Church? What should the Church do—since there are bishops who support these laws?
Nicole Winfield, who asked the question, was interested entirely in the problem of gay people being executed and gay people being victims of violence. That is the problem Pope Francis was addressing. In fact, in his reply, he says twice that 10–12 countries have laws permitting the execution of gay people.
But Fake Site News does not mention this. Raymond Arroyo does not mention this. Fr. Gerald Murray, the habitually apoplectic guest on Warmed Over, does not mention this. I confess I don’t know how you can neglect that context when discussing the pope’s insistence that homosexuality is “not a crime.” But they don’t mention it. At best this is sloppy.
PRO-ANTI-“SODOMY.”
Fr. Murray does spend a great deal of time arguing that anti-“sodomy” laws benefit society. Such laws, he says, “warn people not to commit sin.” They “protect society where if that sin were tolerated it might become more widespread.”
Which is nonsense. There’s no evidence that tolerance of homosexuality causes homosexuality to become more common. No one decides to be gay because people are tolerating gays. Tolerance does not cause people to “catch the gay.” Such fears are ignorance acting upon bigotry. If it superficially seems that there are more gay people roaming the streets than there used to be, that’s nothing more than a function of tolerance bringing people out of the closet. Fr. Murray seems to prefer a world where anti-“sodomy” laws kept people closeted. There were just as many gay people then as there are now, it’s just that Fr. Murray didn’t have to know about them.
“The story of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible,” Fr. Murray continued, “is a warning to us.”
Fr. Murray thinks that dousing the gays with burning sulfur is an appropriate “warning,” although the sin of Sodom was not homosexuality. Even Fr. Dwight Longenecker agrees that the sin of Sodom was sexual violence. It has no bearing on what Pope Francis is talking about. (And for that reason we really ought to dispense with the offensive word “sodomy.”)
But Fr. Murray, who insists upon the word as though he just learned it, has more complaints.
“What is the basis where you would decriminalize sodomy?” he asks. “Do people have a right to commit sodomy? Is this somehow now a human right?”
Unfortunately the man is reading too much into things. There aren’t laws against adultery. There aren’t laws against premarital sex. There aren’t laws against contraception. There aren’t laws against masturbation. But I don’t hear anyone claiming that this means any of them are “human rights.” Anyone could make a convincing claim that all of these things are harmful to society, and yet no one suggests that they should be against the law. No one suggests giving fornicators or masturbators a lethal injection or sending them to the firing squad.
No, it’s only the gays Fr. Murray wants to punish.
FAKE CATHOLIC TEACHING.
Raymond Wolfe, writing at Fake Site, claims: “Catholic teaching explicitly condemns legal protection for homosexuality.” He cites a 1992 letter from the CDF entitled “Some Considerations Concerning the Response to Legislative Proposals on the Non-Discrimination of Homosexual Persons.”
It’s a winded title, although the letter is only slightly longer. But the real problem with Wolfe’s appeal to it is that it addresses a different question altogether, namely, whether the law can prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. The CDF does not address whether homosexuality as such, or gay sex, should be illegal, only whether gay people can be denied public housing intended for families, and things of that kind. Mr. Wolfe’s claim that Pope Francis is contradicting Catholic teaching fails on that basis alone.
And even the National Catholic Register admits that Pope Benedict XVI also urged the decriminalization of homosexuality. The Register cites this statement by the Vatican at the UN General Assembly in 2008. Here’s the key passage:
The Holy See appreciates the attempts made in the Declaration on human rights, sexual orientation and gender identity—presented at the UN General Assembly on 18 December 2008—to condemn all forms of violence against homosexual persons as well as urge States to take necessary measures to put an end to all criminal penalties against them.
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The Holy See continues to advocate that every sign of unjust discrimination towards homosexual persons should be avoided and urges States to do away with criminal penalties against them.
Fr. Murray and Fake Site News neglect to mention this.
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All it took for the latest episode of Pope Francis Derangement Syndrome is for the pope to say: You know, maybe we ought not to be killing gay people.
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