Jason Engwer’s … interesting … plan to “hold critics of sola scriptura accountable.”

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • October 7, 2021 • Apologetics; sola scriptura

 

Jason Eng­w­er is a Calvin­ist who blogs over at Tri­ablogue. He appears to now be the site’s main blog­ger, after the pass­ing of Steve Hays. Mr. Eng­w­er thinks he can break through all the mis­un­der­stand­ings about sola scrip­tura, and he sketch­es out a brief (the blog post is a mere one para­graph) action plan. Five cen­turies of schism and dis­cord, and JE comes along on Tues­day, Octo­ber 5, 2021, and ends it all in a para­graph. Shaz­a­am.

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Blueprint for anarchy: bad argument against sola scriptura? White v. Matatics (1997), part 7.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • June 10, 2020 • Apologetics; Debates; sola scriptura

 

If Dr.* White wants to claim that “blue­print for anar­chy” is a bad argu­ment, he’ll need to prove why it’s a false argu­ment. Take up Mr. Madrid’s chal­lenge and show us sola scrip­tura “actu­al­ly work­ing.” It will not be enough for Dr.* White to mere­ly com­plain that he doesn’t like those words. Nor can he just scoff at an exag­ger­at­ed num­ber of denom­i­na­tions as a sub­sti­tute for address­ing the prob­lem of divi­sion itself — as though, hav­ing proved the num­ber ain’t that high, he can pull the cov­ers over him­self and sleep the sleep of the just.

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Did St. Athanasius teach sola scriptura? White v. Matatics (1997), part 6.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • June 9, 2020 • Apologetics; Church Fathers; Debates; sola scriptura

 

Protes­tants know that if the Church Fathers did not talk about sola scrip­tura, then it real­ly would be an inven­tion of the Ref­or­ma­tion that was unknown before. Sure­ly, if it were a true doc­trine, some­one knew about it before the six­teenth cen­tu­ry! So they go plow­ing through vol­ume after vol­ume of the Church Fathers try­ing to find it by force of div­ina­tion, which they call sound exe­ge­sis. In the ear­li­er parts of his open­ing state­ment, Dr.* White has claimed to find it in St. Cyril, in Theodor­et, and in St. Augus­tine. Now he tries to pile on St. Athana­sius. St. Athana­sius is a real hero of Dr.* White’s.

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Bad apologists say: Sola scriptura has led to 33,000 Protestant denominations.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • June 8, 2020 • Apologetics; sola scriptura

 

This is the first of a new series enti­tled “Bad Apol­o­gists Say,” in which I review some remark­ably inef­fec­tive argu­ments for the faith, or against oth­ers, that Catholics tend to be mys­te­ri­ous­ly attached to. I begin here with the myth of “33,000 Protes­tant denom­i­na­tions,” which is usu­al­ly asso­ci­at­ed with Steve Ray. If you take a look at the actu­al source Mr. Ray uses, you will find all sorts of prob­lems, one of which is that it counts only 9,000 denom­i­na­tions, and anoth­er of which is that its def­i­n­i­tion of “denom­i­na­tion” is prac­ti­cal­ly designed to give you inflat­ed num­bers. It even includes denom­i­na­tions of groups that can’t even be called Chris­t­ian in the first place.

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Mr. X (TurretinFan) claims he finds “formal sufficiency” in Origen.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • May 24, 2020 • Apologetics; Church Fathers; sola scriptura

 

Tur­ret­inFan is back! We’ve missed him. Long­time read­ers will remem­ber this crack, Reformed the­olo­gian who, because of his anonymi­ty, is known here as Mr. X. I thought his blog was dying a pro­tract­ed death. There would be long silences; then, he would flick­er up again for a post or two; then, slump into anoth­er doze. Per­haps he thinks I have for­got­ten him and he can now resume his rai­son d’être: plow­ing wild and unhinged and des­per­ate through the Bible and Church Fathers for evi­dence of Protes­tant doc­trine.

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Do Catholics practice sola ecclesia? White vs. Matatics (1997), part 5.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • September 7, 2019 • Apologetics; Debates; Exegesis; sola scriptura

 

The short answer to the ques­tion is: No. The Church is bound to the Scrip­tures and to the deposit of faith and its own judg­ments in the exer­cise of its teach­ing author­i­ty; it must elu­ci­date Scrip­ture and the deposit of faith and apply them to new ques­tions; no more. That is what Catholic apol­o­gists mean when they say that the Church is the ser­vant of the Scrip­tures and the ser­vant of the deposit of faith. Now. Protes­tants think in the par­a­digm of sola; so upon learn­ing that Catholics reject sola scrip­tura, they con­clude they must prac­tice sola eccle­sia. But no.

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Wherein James White’s definition of sola scriptura does not help him at all. White vs. Matatics (1997), part 4.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • September 6, 2019 • Apologetics; Debates; sola scriptura

 

I have said mul­ti­ple times on this wery blog that, if one were to piece togeth­er a def­i­n­i­tion of sola scrip­tura based only upon quo­ta­tions from the Church Fathers said to sup­port it, you would come up with some­thing no Catholic would dis­agree with. And you would nev­er think to use the word sola in con­nec­tion with it. If you go about it this way — if you start with the quo­ta­tions and work your way to a def­i­n­i­tion — you would not get sola scrip­tura. If you worked in reverse, how­ev­er — if you began with the def­i­n­i­tion and only then pecked around for quo­ta­tions — you would be sure to find many words that super­fi­cial­ly sound like it.

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Did St. Augustine teach sola scriptura? White vs. Matatics (1997), part 3.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • September 5, 2019 • Apologetics; Debates; sola scriptura

 

This is a con­tin­u­a­tion of a long-dor­mant series on a 1997 debate on sola scrip­tura between Dr.* James White and Ger­ry Matat­ics. Dr.* White finds two quo­ta­tions in St. Augus­tine which he thinks are argu­ments for sola scrip­tura, but they amount—like his oth­er quo­ta­tions from the Church Fathers—to cher­ry-pick­ing words out of con­text. Dr.* White’s def­i­n­i­tion of sola scrip­tura is very pre­cise, and yet the quo­ta­tions he choos­es don’t come near that pre­ci­sion. It’s like he’s throw­ing darts and miss­ing not just the tar­get but the whole board. He real­ly needs to do a bet­ter job at this.

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Four questions for defenders of sola scriptura.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • August 9, 2016 • Apologetics; sola scriptura

 

A com­mon­place argu­ment among Catholic apol­o­gists, when­ev­er the top­ic of sola scrip­tura aris­es, is that with­out an author­i­ty exter­nal to the Bible, one can not know which books belong in the Bible in the first place. No Protes­tant would argue that the table of con­tents is infal­li­ble, and yet some­how one must know that Gala­tians belongs in the Bible but not the Epis­tle to the Laodiceans, the Gospel of Luke but not the Gospel of Philip. Protes­tant apol­o­gist Stephen Wolfe, in “A Short Defense of Sola Scrip­tura,” tries to side­step this prob­lem.

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Three verses that don’t prove sola scriptura.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • May 20, 2016 • Apologetics; Exegesis; sola scriptura

 

In con­ver­sa­tions with Protes­tants, the top­ic of sola scrip­tura will almost always come up. Accord­ing to those who are per­suad­ed by this idea, the Bible — six­ty-six, not sev­en­ty-three, books — is the sole infal­li­ble rule of faith and prac­tice for the Church. What­ev­er is not specif­i­cal­ly in the Bible, or may be log­i­cal­ly inferred from it, is not bind­ing upon Chris­tians. The idea is actu­al­ly self-refut­ing when asked this sim­ple ques­tion: “So where is sola scrip­tura in the Bible? If it is not to be found there, then the teach­ing is self-refut­ing: What­ev­er is not in the Bible is not bind­ing on Chris­tians.

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Two highly illogical arguments for sola scriptura.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • April 23, 2015 • Apologetics; sola scriptura

 

Both of these come from Stephen Wolfe, writ­ing at Ref­or­ma­tion 500—a site fre­quent­ed by our old friend, the polem­i­cal rogue Mr. John Bugay The title of Mr. Wolfe’s small lit­tle post is “A Short Defense of Sola Scrip­tura”; and it is so short — even cur­so­ry — that he fails to avoid sev­er­al large and breezy gaps in log­ic. In the first of them, Mr. Wolfe tries to reply to a com­mon­place obser­va­tion: that you can’t have sola scrip­tura unless the Bible itself gives us an infal­li­ble list of what’s canon­i­cal, and the Bible does not come with an inspired table of con­tents.

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Did Theodoret of Cyrus teach sola scriptura? White vs. Matatics (1997), part 2.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • March 3, 2015 • Apologetics; Debates; sola scriptura

 

Not sat­is­fied with his effort to co-opt St. Cyril of Jerusalem into a defense of sola scrip­tura, Dr.* James White (Th.D., D.Min., etc., etc.), of Alpha & Omega Sophistries, goes on to abuse the text of Theodoret’s Dia­logues by quot­ing him out of con­text too. This comes at about the 23:00 mark in his 1997 debate with Ger­ry Matat­ics. The quo­ta­tion Dr.* White pro­vides us is this one: “The doc­trine of the Church should be proven, not announced. There­fore show that the Scrip­tures teach these things.” I will get there present­ly. First some back­ground.

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Did Cyril of Jerusalem teach sola scriptura? White vs. Matatics (1997), part 1.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • June 23, 2014 • Apologetics; Debates; sola scriptura

 

It is an old and tried (and tired) tac­tic of the anti-Catholic apol­o­gist to take a Church Father (by the Mass, even a saint and doc­tor of the Church!) and make believe that he is a Protes­tant. The games peo­ple play now. I have writ­ten of such things before. Sooth, there is not a false doc­trine known to man since 1517, that has not been read into the Bible and the Fathers by Reformed folks who hath eat the drug of anachro­nism and washed it down with the ton­ic of des­per­a­tion. Only the polem­i­cal rogue Mr. John Bugay is bold enough to quit and claim vic­to­ry in the same breath.

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Steve Hays and the parable of the Biltmore.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • January 21, 2014 • Apologetics; sola scriptura

 

Nei­ther Mr. X (who calls him­self Tur­ret­inFan) nor the polem­i­cal rogue (who calls him­self John Bugay) have dared to respond yet to my last arti­cle on sola scrip­tura. Mr. X runs a mad dash through Sacred Scrip­ture, cit­ing any verse that he can bend out of sense, and says, “See! Here! Sola Scrip­tura! Refute that, Roman­ists!” Mean­while Mr. Bugay, who hath no peer for pre­var­i­ca­tion, denies he has to find it at all, and claims that the ques­tion is “dis­hon­est.” Catholic apol­o­gists real­ly ought to shut up if they know what is good for them.

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Desperate John Bugay to Catholics: Shut up about sola scriptura.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • January 17, 2014 • Apologetics; sola scriptura

 

Protes­tant apol­o­gists are cre­ative and tire­less in their efforts to find sola scrip­tura in the Bible. They are undaunt­ed by refu­ta­tion. When told that Acts 17:11, or 2 Tim. 3:16, do not sup­port the doc­trine, they do not attempt fur­ther defense; they sim­ply move on to the next verse. In this way, per­haps Catholics could, in time, get them to run the cir­cuit through every last one. That would be one way to have fun with our sep­a­rat­ed broth­ers. Not only is sola scrip­tura in the Bible; the Bible talks about noth­ing else. Thus has Tur­ret­inFan invent­ed four new proof texts

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