t started out badly enough over at Buggers All, as it tends to do. On that estimable resource of anti-Catholic snipe, court jester Mr. Alan “Rhology” Maricle, who fools no one by his weird alias, wrote a post so shockingly dumb that real snipes hid their bills. Pro-life activity at an abortion mill was now to be used, not to defend the sanctity of life, but instead to bash unoffending Catholics for their “blasphemous” prayers.
In response to Rhology, I wrote a strongly-worded but still charitable post, in which I said, among other things:
I pray the Rosary outside these facilities, and I regularly see large numbers of Catholics of every age group—men, women, children. To my knowledge, we’ve never been joined by a Protestant; though every Catholic I know would welcome their presence—and the presence of anyone else, for that matter, who’d like to join us. I’d be happy to have Rhology stand next to me; he could pray any prayer he liked—the Our Father, a spontaneous utterance, one of the Psalms; I wouldn’t look at him funny.
Thus I suggested that, whatever his differences with the Church might be, Catholics praying outside an abortion clinic (to achieve the same objective he himself fights for) are not the right target for his sniping bigotry.
Love Letters from Geneva.
Now, rather than concede the point or—John forbid!—show contrition, Rhology and Luther’s Interpreter Mr. James Swan chose to use their combox to double down on the juvenalia, the arrogance, and the vitriol. Anything in service of Mother Geneva. It’s a sad thing to watch.
(Mr. Swan, I should say, spends a large portion of his day refuting quotations attributed to Luther, as though his life’s work is to demonstrate that Luther never said anything at all. But I digress.)
Rhology asked, in the combox of his post, whether the word “stupefying” was “like stupidifying.” Now, such a puerile remark as that may get chuckles from Mr. Swan and the rest of the sophomores at the frat house. But if Rhology really were not clear what “stupefying” means, he might have thought to consult a useful reference tool like—oh I don’t know—Merriam-Webster’s. Since, however, I used the word in reference to his own dumb and doltish post, I am happy to concede that it is very like “stupidifying.”
Then one of the others in the thread—a woman who goes by the name “Brigitte,” and who I believe is a Lutheran—said that the Catholic Church does “have the gospel” since they “preach Christ.” The histrionic Rhology said in reply, “I seriously fear for your soul.”
In still more examples of Rhology’s large capacity to act as the grown man he is, he:
- bewailed Catholic “hatred” for the Gospel;
- said, with his customary gravity, that Acts 5:38, as cited by one Catholic, was “ripped screaming out of context” [much like an aborted child!];
- accused Catholics of merely “mocking” him “on their keyboard” while he was out on the streets doing real soul-winning. [Wait, didn’t this whole discussion start because he had run into Catholics out on the street at the abortion mill?]; and
- replied to an offer on my blog to pray for him with the word “HAHAHAHAHAHA” and a dismissive reference to God’s mother as “a dead woman.”
Here and there, now and then, Rhology resorted to mature and considered, subtle and astute expressions, such as “whoopie,” “that’s rich,” and “may the Lord judge between you and us.” (Take care now with that wish, good sir.)
Last, and not to be outdone in the Buggers All combox, Mr. Swan took breezy offense at the “wonderful loving Romanists” who were discussing Rhology’s bane post on Facebook. He asked, with his plentiful and boorish lack of mind or wit, whether “Mary is appearing to them and approving their comments before they post them.” In another comment, he expressed his certain opinion that Catholics are “their own worst enemies” and should “keep it coming.” (The latter suggestion being one I am willing to heed here.) Mary, he suggested, must be “very sad.” Mr. Swan also took it upon himself, free of any sense of irony, to describe the comments on Facebook as “downright nasty” and to speculate, with the kind of paranoia and persecution complex that worries me, that we engage in such nastiness under the direct orders of our priests. (As though priests have nothing more to do with their days than marshal armies of Catholics onto the Net to assault and bludgeon poor St. Rho and St. Swan.)
Oh! such wonderful, loving Calvinists!
geneva’s sleight-of-hand with “the gospel.”
Not that they did not buck up with brave efforts to speak to the point. The key question I had asked was this one: “Doesn’t the monstrous evil of abortion trump our theological differences?”
I should point out, if only for the sake of clarity, that I was not trying to suggest that the murder of unborn babies means that our theological differences do not matter. What I mean is that they are of small importance when we’re mutually engaged in trying to stop that murder. In the context of that fight, my differences with a Reformed Protestant don’t matter, nor mine with a Mormon or Buddhist or atheist. I think one of the most tragic reasons why there is still abortion in America today is because Catholics and Protestants have been fighting the battle apart from each other. My point in asking the question was that Rhology should not allow his objections to Catholicism to keep him from viewing Catholics as co-laborers in the struggle against the evil of abortion.
With that clarification in mind, this is how Rhology responded to my question: “Not if the Gospel is the solution to that evil and RCC doesn’t preach it.”
Mr. Swan likewise responded by saying, “I consider the Roman perspective on Mary to be blatant idolatry. … Rome anathematized the gospel at Trent.”
Well, let us look at this claim with some care; for at the root of it is rhetorical trickery. When the Reformed make mention of “the Gospel” that the Catholic Church “doesn’t have,” they are referring only to the doctrine of justification by faith alone. That—and nothing more, in their view—is “the Gospel.”
Now, this habit among the Reformed—of using the expression “the Gospel” to mean “justification by faith alone”—is common enough that it works its way into the books they write against the Catholic Church. Just now I am in the painful process of reading Robert M. Zzzins’ horrid tome Romanism; and it would require the descriptive power of a Charles Dickens to express just how bad it is, how much a throwback to the wild histrionics of nineteenth-century anti-Catholic polemicists like Charles Spurgeon. The absurd and over-the-top subtitle of Mr. Zzzins’ book is “The Relentless Roman Catholic Assault on the Gospel of Jesus Christ!” (That’s Mr. Zzzins’ exclamation point.) What Mr. Zzzins really means by that is, “The relentless Roman Catholic assault on the doctrine of justification by faith alone.” To which I say, “Of course. Amen. Praise Jesus.” But: That’s not the Gospel. For not only is justification by faith alone not to be found in any of the four gospels, it’s not even in the text from Romans where Reformed apologists claim to find it. Romans 3:28 says that a man is justified by faith, but it does not use the word “alone.” The only place in the Bible that does—James 2:24—uses it for the specific purpose of denying that we are justified by faith alone. Calvinists do not deal straight with this.
And so when Mr. Swan says that the Council of Trent “anathematized the Gospel,” all he means is that Trent anathematized justification by faith alone. Here are the relevant words from Canon 9:
If any one saith that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required in order to the obtaining [of] the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.
By sleight-of-hand, Mr. Swan recasts a heresy as “the Gospel,” and attempts to deceive others into the belief that “Rome” is opposed to the Gospel itself, when in fact all that “Rome” is opposed to is a heretical understanding of the Gospel.
can right soteriology defeat abortion?
Thus having clarified that part of the issue, I should also mention how odd is Rhology’s assumption that “the Gospel” (understood as the doctrine of justification by faith alone) will solve the scourge of abortion. I’m perplexed by it; wouldn’t something like a sense of the sanctity of all human life as created in the image of God, or John Paul II’s Theology of the Body, or the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” (which, after all, is a question of the law, not of faith) be more relevant to the specific issues that are raised by abortion? Abortion comes of the selfish de-valuing of life; it does not come of a faulty view of justification. A Catholic’s rejection of justification by faith alone does not stop him from being pro-life.
Dave Armstrong believes he understands Rhology’s reasoning (such as it is). On his Facebook page, he replied on the very point, after I had raised it there:
I was thinking much the same thing today. There is no direct correlation, but I think how he is looking at it, is as an indirect route to stopping abortion:
1. A pro-abortion person gets saved (i.e., according to his version of how it occurs).
2. Because of this conversion or born again experience and the transformation of soul and life that follows they, become pro-life (I went through this process myself).
3. Therefore, the gospel defeats abortion.
This much is true (apart from definitional quibbles). But it’s not the whole truth. There are atheist pro-lifers and Muslim pro-lifers and Buddhist pro-lifers. They don’t become less so because they don’t accept the Christian gospel. Bernard Nathanson stopped killing babies before he was a Christian (later becoming a Catholic).
Clearly, there is a great fallacy here.
I can understand the logic in one sense. For six years, from about the age of 18 to the age of 24, I was an atheist, and I was pro-choice. I was one of those people who had “personal objections” to abortion but didn’t feel that the government had any business stopping a woman from doing whatever she chose. After I accepted again the faith of my childhood (I was raised United Methodist), and with time, I became convicted about the great evil of abortion. Thus I first got saved, then became pro-life. It does work that way. But as Mr. Armstrong also points out, Christianity is not the only grounds upon which abortion can be opposed. One can argue, if he likes, whether non-Christian rationales are the best from which to oppose it; and I would happen to agree that the Christian teaching (which is really the Catholic teaching) about the sanctity of all life from conception to natural death, since it is made in the image of God, is superior to any other argument.
However. When you’re at an abortion mill, and you’re trying to save as many babies as you possibly can, wouldn’t it be better to first save the baby (since the baby’s in imminent danger), and only then worry about leading the woman to accept the Gospel (whatever you understand the Gospel to be)?
And. The ins-and-outs of this discussion aside, isn’t abortion a great enough evil that defeating it can use the assistance of as many people as possible, regardless of what their reasons are to oppose it? Should those differences not be discussed in a different setting than the arena of activism itself? My question remains, and Rhology never really answered it. Rather, as if by reflex, he returned to the cliché about how the Catholic Church “doesn’t have the gospel.” The consistent return to that cliché, that anti-Catholic talking point, makes me wonder to what extent Rhology is capable of interacting in any meaningful way when dialoguing with Catholics. He just reads from the script and, when challenged, chortles.
the sadducism of Rhology exposed!!!!!
A second point was made in the Buggers All thread; this one was all about the direct address to Mary in Catholic prayers. Rhology asserted that it was “pathetic and useless” to pray to “a dead human being.” In still another comment, he said, “I don’t think I need anything from a dead woman.” And yet one more: “People living here on Earth are not supposed to talk to dead people.” These kind of comments make Rhology sound very like a Sadducee. Listen to St. Mark:
Then come unto him the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man’s brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. Now there were seven brethren; and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed. And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise. And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also. In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife. And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err. (Mark 12:18–27)
He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. If he is the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, is he not also the God of Mary? For he was the God who chose Mary. He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living; Rhology does greatly err.
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