Mr. X (TurretinFan) is upset, again, about a Coptic MS. misattributed to Athanasius.

BY: Henry Matthew Alt • November 9, 2021 • Apologetics; Church Fathers; Marian Dogmas

Papyrus Bod­mer VI, show­ing Proverbs 6:10 – 17 in Cop­tic. ca. 4th cen­tu­ry; “pub­lic domain

Note: The image above is not the Homi­ly of the Papyrus of Turin but a Cop­tic man­u­script of the Old Tes­ta­ment. I have it up there because it’s free to use and is a Cop­tic man­u­script of the same cen­tu­ry as HPT. I clar­i­fy this here lest Mr. X accuse me of being decep­tive and pass­ing it off as a gen­uine image of the man­u­script under dis­cus­sion below. If the read­er is inter­est­ed, a gen­uine image of that man­u­script can be found here.

 

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he crack apol­o­gist and five­point Calvin­ist who calls him­self “Tur­ret­inFan,” and who is known to us as Mr. X, first got upset about this man­u­script in 2008. Then, he got upset again in 2009. Now in 2021, after a blog­ging sab­bat­i­cal of six weeks, he has decid­ed to let us know that he is upset again. Maybe that explains his absence; in his men­tal unrest, he could­n’t bring him­self to log onto his blog and has spent the days in severe prayer. I don’t know.

It’s not hard to imag­ine why Mr. X is so upset; the man­su­cript in ques­tion is the “Homi­ly of the Papyrus of Turin” [HPT]. The (lost) orig­i­nal dates to around the 4th century—the one extant man­u­script is from the 6th—and Catholic apol­o­gists like to cite it as an ear­ly exam­ple of Mar­i­an ven­er­a­tion:

O noble Vir­gin, tru­ly you are greater than any oth­er great­ness. For who is your equal in great­ness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all crea­tures shall I com­pare you, O Vir­gin? You are greater than them all O Covenant, clothed with puri­ty instead of gold! You are the Ark in which is found the gold­en ves­sel con­tain­ing the true man­na, that is, the flesh in which divin­i­ty resides.

That would be enough to upset any Calvin­ist. But Mr. X is upset because he does­n’t think Athana­sius wrote it; and it’s not right, he says—it may even be down­right ugly mendacity—for apol­o­gists like Jim­my Akin and Steve Ray to say that Athana­sius wrote it: even though Cop­tic schol­ars once upon a time hap­py attrib­uted it to him. For exam­ple, in 1958, the Bel­gian Cop­tol­o­gist Louis Theophile Lefort pub­lished a text of the man­u­script with the title L’homélie de S. Athanase des papyrus de Turin.

MAY 8, 2008

Mr. X, whose iden­ti­ty and cre­den­tials remain unknown to this day, is aware of Lefort (for why would­n’t he be?) and cites him in his blog arti­cle of May 8, 2008. He has a whole list of rea­sons he’s uncon­vinced by the peer-reviewed jour­nal Le Museon:

 

  • The title, he says [HPT], “is not itself fright­ful­ly reas­sur­ing. It sug­gests attri­bu­tion to Athana­sius based on a sin­gle copy (prob­a­bly in Cop­tic-Sahad­dic not Greek) from the 6th cen­tu­ry or so.”
  • HPT was, he says, “unknown to the West­ern Church as part of the Athanasian cor­pus” pri­or to its iden­ti­fi­ca­tion as such in Le Museon.
  • HPT is cit­ed fre­quent­ly by “pop­u­lar Roman Catholic apol­o­gists … espe­cial­ly because of its dis­cus­sion of Mary.”

Well, okay, I sup­pose. All this could sug­gest some­thing; or not much at all. The fact that ancient man­u­scripts would exist in only a sin­gle copy is entire­ly com­mon. It’s also entire­ly com­mon for schol­ar­ly think­ing on author­ship to change with time. It’s entire­ly com­mon for schol­ars to attribute some works to a whole list of pos­si­ble authors. King Leir, a pos­si­ble source for Shake­speare’s play (note the vari­ant spelling “Leir”) has been var­i­ous­ly attrib­uted to Thomas Kyd, Richard Greene, George Peele, Thomas Lodge, Antho­ny Mun­day, and even Shake­speare him­self. No one agrees who wrote it or if we can know. But we do know it’s not a forgery.

And Mr. X does not ques­tion the authen­tic­i­ty of HPT (at least not in 2008 he does­n’t). He does­n’t say why it would mat­ter if some­one oth­er than Athana­sius wrote it. He does­n’t say why it mat­ters that it’s in Cop­tic rather than Greek. (It’s a copy, after all; the orig­i­nal may have been in Greek.) Indeed he claims (or pre­tends to be) agnos­tic about the whole thing. He’s just curi­ous; he’s just ask­ing ques­tions:

I won­der whether any of the Catholic apol­o­gists who have been cit­ing this work … have any defense of its authen­tic­i­ty. I’m guess­ing that each of them got the cita­tion from some sec­ondary source or oth­er (per­haps even ter­tiary, as Lefort appears to have pro­vid­ed his trans­la­tion in French), and did not per­form any research as to the authen­tic­i­ty of the quo­ta­tion.

Nev­er­the­less, my guess could be wrong, and I’d be delight­ed to be mis­tak­en. I don’t mean this arti­cle to sug­gest that I’ve defin­i­tive­ly proved the spu­ri­ous nature of the quo­ta­tion, but sim­ply giv­en the read­er good rea­son to ques­tion its authen­tic­i­ty. If there is anoth­er side to the argu­ment, I’d love to hear it.

March 3, 2009

But then, one year lat­er, on Dr.* James White’s site, Mr. X got upset again, and this time said that HPT is a “spu­ri­ous quo­ta­tion.” Not just the attri­bu­tion of it to Athana­sius is “spu­ri­ous,” but the quo­ta­tion itself! He does­n’t sug­gest who the forg­er was, or whether Jim­my Akin found a DeLore­an and went back in time to plant the man­u­script in Alexan­dria. And he lash­es out at the sup­posed dis­hon­esty of Steve Ray and William Albrecht, who quote from HPT as though it were gen­uine:

Sad­ly, rather than cor­rect his error and be hon­est with his read­ers, Mr. Ray has cho­sen to pre­tend the prob­lem doesn’t exist, direct­ing his read­ers, once again, to the video mus­ings of Mr. William Albrecht.

All of a sud­den lat­ter­ly agnos­tic Mr. X has become stri­dent and bom­bas­tic about HPT:

[W]hen Rome’s apol­o­gists try to defend their spu­ri­ous works [You’d think Fr. Pacwa forged the thing; I mean, he does know Cop­tic.] with irrel­e­vant, inac­cu­rate, or mis­lead­ing argu­men­ta­tion, one won­ders whether they even care about the truth. One hopes that Mr. Albrecht’s video post can be chaulked up to youth­ful zeal rather than a mali­cious wish to mis­lead his view­ers. Like­wise, we can pre­sume that Mr. Ray sim­ply doesn’t take his own work’s integri­ty seri­ous­ly enough to defend his cita­tion of a spu­ri­ous work, instead direct­ing his read­ers to a video that we can be sure he did not ful­ly research for accu­ra­cy.

Mr. X insists on con­flat­ing two sep­a­rate ques­tions: Whether HPT itself is “spu­ri­ous,” or only the claim that St. Athana­sius wrote it. It’s as though he thinks that, unless Athana­sius can be shown to have wrote it, a forg­er must have.

But what is Mr. X’s evi­dence, which he thinks Steve Ray and William Albrecht care noth­ing for?

  • First, Mr. X says that HPT “is not to be found in any stan­dard list of Athanasian works.”

But that would call into ques­tion only its author­ship, not its authen­tic­i­ty as a Cop­tic text. The Gnos­tic Gospel of Judas does­n’t appear in any stan­dard list of the bib­li­cal canon—not because it’s a forgery but only because it’s not inspired. Arden of Fever­sham does­n’t appear in any of the col­lect­ed works of Shake­speare because no one seri­ous­ly thinks that Shake­speare wrote it. But some­one in the late six­teenth cen­tu­ry did (prob­a­bly Thomas Kyd).

  • Sec­ond, Mr. X says that the man­u­script exists in only one text.

But, as I point­ed out above, that’s entire­ly com­mon with ancient man­u­scripts and hard­ly proves any­thing one way or the oth­er about HPT’s authen­tic­i­ty. The only thing it proves is that it’s an ancient man­u­script.

  • Third, Mr. X says one would expect a Catholic who believes in Mar­i­an ven­er­a­tion to be attached to HBT because it artic­u­lates what they already believe.

But that’s not an argu­ment; that’s an expres­sion of bias. I could just as eas­i­ly say that HPT’s Mar­i­an­ism is the rea­son one would expect Mr. X to be upset with it. That kind of “argu­ment” works both ways.

  • Fourth, Mr. X says that Lefort him­self refused to claim that Athana­sius wrote HPT mere­ly because his name was at the top of the man­u­script.

But that proves that Lefort is a care­ful schol­ar who does not wish to claim more than the evi­dence sug­gests. It proves that the author­ship, not the authen­tic­i­ty of the man­u­script is in ques­tion.

“The weight of the schol­ar­ly evi­dence,” Mr. X grand­ly con­cludes, “is that the work is spu­ri­ous, and Mr. Albrecht has giv­en us no rea­son to doubt that con­sen­sus.”

But Mr. X has cit­ed no such con­sen­sus. At best, he has informed us that the author­ship of HPT is in doubt. He has cit­ed rea­sons why Catholic apol­o­gists should clar­i­fy that the author­ship of HPT is not set­tled. That’s it.

November 1, 2021

And now, this month, Mr. X is upset again. Catholic apol­o­gists, he says are “still [Still!] cit­ing the work because of what it says about Mary.” He notes that the Clavis Patrum Graeco­rum iden­ti­fies HPT as “doubt­ful.” He also cites the French bib­li­cal schol­ar Simon Claude Mimouni, who in 1995 wrote: “It is dif­fi­cult to con­sid­er the attri­bu­tion [to Athana­sius] to be gen­uine.”

I am at pains to point out, once again, that what Mimouni dis­putes here is the attri­bu­tion. And indeed, Mr. X him­self admits that patris­tics schol­ar Robert Caro (not to be con­fused with the LBJ biog­ra­ph­er) pro­pos­es that Didy­mus the Blind wrote the HPT. Well now!

We can con­sult the valu­able Catholic Ency­clo­pe­dia and learn who Didy­mus the Blind was. He was a fourth-cen­tu­ry the­olo­gian in Egypt, asso­ci­at­ed with St. Athana­sius. He was a strong oppo­nent of Ari­an­ism and “per­fect­ly ortho­dox” in his Chris­tol­ogy.

He was ear­ly placed at the head of the famous cat­e­chet­i­cal school of Alexan­dria, over which he presided for about half a cen­tu­ry. St. Athana­sius high­ly esteemed him. The ora­tor Liba­n­ius wrote to an offi­cial in Egypt: “You can­not sure­ly be igno­rant of Didy­mus, unless you are igno­rant of the great city where­in he has been night and day pour­ing out his learn­ing for the good of oth­ers. He is sim­i­lar­ly extolled by his con­tem­po­raries and by the his­to­ri­ans of the fol­low­ing cen­tu­ry, Rufi­nus was six years his pupil. Pal­la­dius vis­it­ed him four times in ten years (prob­a­bly 388–398). Jerome came to him for a month in order to have his doubts resolved with regard to dif­fi­cult pas­sages of Scrip­ture. Lat­er ages have neglect­ed this remark­able man.

So we don’t have a case of a “spu­ri­ous work” at all, only a case of uncer­tain author­ship. Which is it, Mr. X? Even if Athana­sius did not write the text, it’s pos­si­ble an asso­ciate of Athana­sius did. And that may explain how the sain­t’s name got at the top of the man­u­script. It was in the Athanasian school, if you like. The true author, if not Athanasias, was prob­a­bly not some the­o­log­i­cal rene­gade try­ing to bur­den the Church with here­sies about Mary and claim­ing that Athana­sius taught these things. More like­ly, the author was a ful­ly ortho­dox and respect­ed asso­ciate of Athana­sius who was express­ing authen­tic teach­ing about the Blessed Moth­er.

Mr. X con­cludes with a char­ac­ter­is­tic flour­ish of extrav­a­gance:

From the stand­point of his­tor­i­cal the­ol­o­gy, keep in mind that the ven­er­a­tion of Mary is some­thing that grew over time. [I know of no seri­ous Catholic apol­o­gist who would deny this. This is not exact­ly news.] It is not an apos­tolic tra­di­tion, nor does Scrip­ture teach us to ven­er­ate Mary in the sense that Roman Catholics and East­ern Ortho­dox ask us to do. We can describe her as being blessed by God in the sense that Scrip­ture says, and we can also affirm her appar­ent role as one of Luke’s eye­wit­ness­es for the Gospel of Luke. That said, the cult of Mary is entire­ly inap­pro­pri­ate.

All of which is a clas­sic exam­ple of some­one who has proven some­thing quite mod­est but who thinks he has proven some­thing spec­tac­u­lar­ly large. I am hap­py to con­cede that Catholic apol­o­gists should be more care­ful, when cit­ing the HPT, to note that its author­ship is uncer­tain. But appar­ent­ly Mr. X thinks that he has proven that the “cult of Mary” is a fraud, which is non­sense. That would be like an his­to­ri­an dis­cov­er­ing that a doc­u­ment has been mis­at­trib­uted to Thomas Jef­fer­son, and then claim­ing he had proven that equal­i­ty is real­ly only a very recent idea in Amer­i­can pol­i­tics and we prob­a­bly ought to dis­card it.

That’s the kind of thing Mr. X does.

 


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